As expected, a writ appeal petition has been docketed for In re MW. I was going to post about this and discussions among some of us a few years ago about when might it be appropriate to try and have a military judge declare an SVC as a de facto party to the court-martial (and thus subject to R.C.M. 701 and Brady). We were sanguine about the motion getting off the ground. In re MW may move the ball a little--but let's see what CAAF does.
Don Rehkopf
2/11/2023 14:34:18
Some of us predicted this precise scenario would arise, i.e., that TC and SVC would "gang up" on the defense. Only here, in addition, the purported victim (having her own detailed defense counsel for reasons not made clear) had her ADC join in the affray. 2/11/2023 14:47:17
And, at what point, if any, does collaboration become a waiver of any privilege the SVC has? The TC is after all a third party to the privilege as would be the DC or any other person?
Don Rehkopf
2/11/2023 15:03:19
Very good point Phil.
Don Rehkopf
2/11/2023 15:24:14
Upon further reflection, should the style of the case reflect the actual status, e.g., "U.S. ex rel. MW v. Military Judge?" https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/ex_rel.
Tami Mitchell
2/11/2023 16:42:10
This is becoming ridiculous. Article 6b doesn't confer a general "right" to a complainant to confer about every single matter that impacts the court-martial. A complainant has no right to provide input on panel member selection/challenges. I would argue that disclosure of a complainant's position on panel member challenges is a waiver of privilege, again, the complainant has no "right" to confer with trial counsel on challenges to panel members. Panel member selection isn't a personal right of the complainant.
Don Rehkopf
2/13/2023 10:38:48
Upon further thought, there are some serious ethical issues here. Specifically, have the SVC and the complainant's DC harmed their client? Meaning, by not protecting their respective attorney-client privileges by implicitly waiving them by having 3rd parties present during conversation, is any privilege forfeited within the parameters of the unprivileged discussions?
Laissez Faire
2/14/2023 00:32:13
I'm a bit confused about all the agitation here. What exactly is the UCI? Don, you say this wouldn't be allowed in any common law jurisdiction--but in what jurisdiction would it be barred? If a DA were to turn to his police investigator buddy in the gallery and ask "who do you think we should kick?" what are they going to get in trouble for? I feel like I must be missing something big and obvious in civilian practice.
Agreed
2/14/2023 12:56:45
Agree with you 100% on everything you stated.
Nathan Freeburg
2/14/2023 13:28:26
I love SVC/VLCs as they greatly increase the acquittal rate. But if they are assisting the prosecution with VD then they are acting as prosecutors which as a matter of constitutional law means they are subject to disclosing all Brady material they know about (which could mean violating attorney client privilege). You can’t have AC privilege with a client and be a prosecutor. It is the State v. an Accused. Not private party v. an accused.
Tami Mitchell
2/14/2023 14:26:51
@Agreed: I used to be an SVC, and was all for zealous representation of my clients. But Article 6b provides LIMITED standing to alleged victims, and by extension, that LIMITED standing also applies to their lawyers, whether they are defense counsel or SVCs/VLCs, etc.
Agreed
2/14/2023 14:40:54
@Tami: What is the test for when a third-party attorney becomes a functional member of the prosecution team? I don't think Kastenberg addresses that, but feel free to correct me. Again, there probably is a line somewhere but does any jurisdiction have case law on this?
Nathan Freeburg
2/14/2023 00:44:44
LF: I tend to agree with you that UCI is not the right lens to look at this (though I can’t rule out that it might somehow be an easier appellate approach), The issue, as the original post alludes to, is that if the SVC/VLC is part of the prosecution team (which is clearly what happened here), than the Constitutiional jurisprudence regarding Brady and discovery apply (as it would with your police investigator buddy) to the SVC/VLC. Mull on the ramifications of that.
Agreed
2/14/2023 14:15:51
I can't respond to your comment above about the SVC acting as the prosecution if they assist with VD, but two questions:
Don Rehkopf
2/14/2023 15:34:31
Agreed:
Agreed
2/14/2023 15:47:47
(1) sure. But not analogous to this situation with a third party attorney. Can you provide? I would be happy to read.
Lazy Fare
2/14/2023 23:26:30
NF: Certainly agree that the "prosecution team" and Brady question deserves mulling. So let's mull!
Nathan Freeburg
2/15/2023 03:07:51
LF: Agreed that it's going to be fact-specific. Three points:
Don Rehkopf
2/14/2023 12:02:09
LF: If you know of a jurisdiction that assigns a lawyer to a purported victim other than the military, please enlighten me. Federal Courts and the State courts which I've practiced in give the complainant a "victim-witness advocate," [VWA] who at best is a paralegal. I have personally had VWA's removed from a court-room for passing notes to the prosecutor, giving signals to the "victim" during cross-examination, and admonished for other misconduct, e.g., telling my client's family that they couldn't sit in the front row of the galley.
Lazy Fare
2/14/2023 23:40:44
Don: I believe some colleges are starting to use VLC, but I'm not aware of any criminal jurisdictions with assigned SVCs. And am I surprised you've had to beat back VWAs into their corner?
Nathan Freeburg
2/15/2023 02:55:57
LF: No one is saying that the prosecutor can't ask others for advice or input (at least I'm not). The question is, at what point does the SVC/VLC's interaction with the prosecution make them part of the prosecution? And to the extent that the SVC/VLC remains a third party, does that waive attorney work product for anything revealed to them by the prosecution? 2/14/2023 15:31:46
LF. There is no case law.
Lazy Fare
2/14/2023 23:44:27
Thanks for the interesting historical note re "private prosecutors" and the articles! The context the Capers article provides regarding the recent consideration for SVCs is fascinating.
Donald G Rehkopf, Jr.
2/15/2023 12:21:12
In addition to the articles Phil cites, check out this link which includes those as well as others. Notably, at least imho, none discuss the militarys' approach. And FWIW, nice to see some civil, intellectual sparring back here.
Nathan Freeburg
2/14/2023 16:08:49
1. As Don noted, there absolutely is case law about when someone becomes part of the prosecution for Brady purposes, albeit not-third party attorneys (to my knowledge anyway) because they so rarely exist.
Nathan Freeburg
2/14/2023 16:17:45
I want to be very clear. I am completely supportive of any person having an attorney (I've had friends called to testify as witnesses in federal grand juries or in federal trials and recommended that they retain counsel just to protect their interests even though they weren't the subjects). And if the military services want to destroy rapport between complaining witnesses and prosecutors by adding an attorney between at government expense (and eliminate their bench of experienced counsel to try cases), so be it. Not my problem. (Other than that it's good for my clients.). But when they are assisting prosecutors with tactical decisions and case strategy, that is assuming a prosecutorial function.
Nathan Freeburg
2/14/2023 16:28:55
1st Amendment:
Don Rehkopf
2/14/2023 17:23:05
One additional 1st Amendment point, Agreed, if you're referring to the right to Petition for Grievances, that has nothing to do with this issue. That right comprehends demands for an exercise by the government of its powers
Anon VLC
2/14/2023 20:18:19
Hopefully, CAAF grants a hearing so the filings are available in this case. Facts seem to be missing allowing a lot of supposition and conjecture.
Donald G Rehkopf, Jr.
2/15/2023 12:25:52
Anon - totally agree with both you and brother Phil. 2/14/2023 20:30:38
Hah. If there were a PACER we'd have them now.
Tami Mitchell
2/15/2023 13:39:08
@Agreed, to your first question about case law, I think the dissent in LRM v. Kastenberg is instructive, when the SVC engages with TC on a matter in which the alleged victim has no standing, the SVC becomes a member of the prosecution team. In this case, the discussion went beyond consulting w/ the SVC about voir dire, it was about gauging which members were favorable to the alleged victim. The alleged victim isn't a party to the case, and therefore has no right to participate in the voir dire process or challenge for cause. Additionally, there is In Re KK, where the AFCCA appropriately held the alleged victim doesn't get to challenge every ruling she disagrees with.
Anon VLC
2/15/2023 14:08:44
@Tami - LRM v Kastenberg was decided before the codification of Article 6b, so, arguably, largely inapplicable to the issue of standing/jurisdiction on victims rights. KK seems to weigh in favor of victim litigation to appellate courts, as AFCCA highlights the text of 6b says "when a victim believes" a right is violated she can petition. It also seems as if the argument of mootness was made, yet CAAF granted a stay in MW. Should be an interesting outcome.
Tami Mitchell
2/15/2023 16:26:26
@Anon VLC, I understand Kastenberg was decided before Article 6b was enacted, but the dissent's points are still well-taken and applicable, because the issue of and SVC "conferring with" trial counsel about panel member selection is outside the scope of Article 6b. It's outside the scope because it's not "reasonable" for an SVC to participate in a strategic decision that belongs to the parties (and remember, the alleged victim is not a "party") and doesn't implicate an alleged victim's "rights." An alleged victim doesn't have a "right" for a panel to be comprised of members favorable to her. Comments are closed.
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